A different sort of anal-sac problem

My pug's anal sacs don't get blocked--instead, they leak! It only really happens when he sits on our laps in what we call the "Bill the Cat" position (on his rear, with his back legs sticking straight out). In typical pug fashion, after they leak he tends to get up, turn around, and sniff disgustedly at the offensive odor. Does anyone else's pug have this problem? Our vet looks at us like we're crazy, and pug-owner resources only ever talk about blocked anal sacs.

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MamaPugford (about 6 years ago)

Welcome to PugSpot! Our two pugs have this issue. Your vet should NOT look at you like you're crazy because this is a typical thing for pugs (and other small dogs).

Sofia (our youngest pug) deals with this the most. She never gets to the point where the anal glands are impacted or she's in pain or anything like that, but usually when she is really chill or taking a nap, she leaks a bit. The gross thing is that my other pug LOVES the stinky stuff! gross...

We just periodically take Sofia to the vet to have her "anal glands expressed." Your vet really should know about this. You may want to consider going to a different vet?

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howardthepug (about 6 years ago)

Oh, the vet will express them but the problem is that they'll leak again within days after they're expressed--so unless we're going to have them expressed daily, we're kind of stuck with the problem, I guess. (And I can't bear to do it myself!)

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Amyj484 (about 6 years ago)

I made a vet appointment for Monday for this EXACT reason! I don't know what to do. And, same as howardthepug, they are definitely not impacted, just leaky. My five month old had her's expressed the day before Thanksgiving after she leaked on me during a stop on our 7 hour drive and I had to spend the rest of the drive smelling like a rotten fish! So she had them drained, and they said they were full. Just over the weekend, I was holding her in a store and I smelled the scary smell, and there was a little drip running down my PURSE! Ah! It's had only been a week and a half since they were expressed. Is it a puppy thing to have the anal glands be leaky?

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howardthepug (about 6 years ago)

Howard is 2.5 years old and he still squonks (as someone we know called it once), though perhaps a bit less than he used to. So maybe it gets better?!

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RosienMikeysMom (about 6 years ago)

thankfully, i or should i say my pugs don't have this problem. the only problem i had like this is when mikey's anal glands had an infection. did your vet happen to check for that? also, sometimes the puggies need a little natural help to clean out those glands like some extra fiber in their diet. i put about a teaspoon of plain, canned pumpkin in their food everyday and except for mikey's infection that one time....we have never had to express their glands or had any leaky butts. i know others that use pumpkin and also haven't had those problems. is pumpkin the remedy to this problem?...i don't know...but it might be worth a try. totally harmless, is good for them, and might help....good luck

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Molly (about 6 years ago)

Ok so this must be Uba's problem also. Sometimes she will "leak" but we always assumed it came from her pee-pee because (and I apologize I know this will sound very disgusting) it smells like rotten fish or something. But she will freak out smell it and must lick it all up! Gross! How would we know if her glands are "impacted"? Her butt butt has always looked puffy (hehe) and the vet has never mentioned anything like this.

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howardthepug (about 6 years ago)

Well, at least she cleans up her own mess! I go through many pairs of jeans every week because once they've been squonked on, there's no wearing them again until they're washed. I've read a lot about impacted glands, wishing my dog had that problem instead.... Usually if a pug has impacted glands, he/she will "scoot" around on his/her rear end, the way you sometimes see dogs do. Certain breeds are more prone to impacted glands, and your vet should be able to express them.

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Amyj484 (about 6 years ago)

So, an update to the "leaky anal issue"! I took Olive to the vet this morning and explained the problem. Both vets on duty said they had never encountered leaky anal glands! They were perplexed and said they'd research more into it. And they tried to expressed them, but her glands were empty, despite the fact she leaked THREE times on me this week. They also said it most likely will be something she grows out of with age, but if not, there may be a problem with the sphincter that controls release of the fluid and the glands may have to be removed all together. I guess time will tell.

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olliegus0607 (almost 6 years ago)

Our two pugs have the same problem. The vet expressed their glands, but it still happens. It is the WORST smell ever!

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devonator (almost 6 years ago)

One of my pugs has the same problem and his vet, at one time, recommended giving him pumpkin every day. I didn't try it but I will now since it seems to be helping RosienMikeysMom. Expressing the glands doesn't stop them from leaking

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potsie'smomma (almost 6 years ago)

potsie leaks but only when her glands are full & need to be expressed-she is ok all other times. i feel sorry for all of ya who have this pug issue!! it IS def. the WORST smell!

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Pugsleigh (almost 6 years ago)

1 small tsp of canned pumkin, every day with breakfast, made a huge difference for two of our 3 pugs that have always had this problem.

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saccon11 (over 5 years ago)

My wife and i hve two pugs. My 6 yr old feamale has never had a problem but my 5 yr old male leaks all the time but only when he is lying on my wife. IT's weird i know but we think it's because he is her baby and he is more relaxed with her. We have brought him to the vet and she has no idea why he leaks . I do like the term squonks but in our house we call it a shart. Put two words together you'll figure it out.

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KatB (over 5 years ago)

My pugs did this too. I have had anal sacs removed. Yes you can take them into vet and have them squeeze them. But I got tired of paying for that. I have four dogs, My MinPin leaked the worse. She was the first to have them removed. I have a good Vet, and she allowed me to watch this surgery. It is a very simple surgery, (Do the Lazor) if the dog doesn't have infection. Or they are blocked. That is why I had them taken out. I watched surgery, 2 stitches on either side of the bum hole. All mine didn't have any soreness after surgery, came home same day and pooped as soon as they hit the backyard. The only problem is----after surgery your dog experiences- Me fling poop! As the muscles around the anal area are laxed for about a week. Now, Mine only drop a ball of poop when they would sneeze, or start wagging their behinds fast. It wasn't that big of a deal. I just kept them each in the kitchen with a gate up, and waited for the muscles to tighten again. It didn't take long. If the dog is having alot of problem with this, I strongly suggest having this surgery done. These glands CAN become infected and really cause bigger problems for your poor dog and you. I have seen cases where they have burst. Not a pretty site. Most people have this surgery done when dogs are pups, or when spay and neutering is done. Hope this helps. I have also heard about putting pumpkin in their food. I have never tryed it, but if it works that's even cheaper. It's worth a try.

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Madison Rose (over 5 years ago)

Didn't know the anal sacs can be removed. Thanks for the info. My first pug had this problem but the puppy hasn't suffered with it as much. I've learned to carry wet ones to clearn up foul-smelling pugs and the clothes/sofas they "leak" on. I'm concerned that there are vets who are puzzled by this. Judging by the experiences posted here and my own, it's very common. Gotta say, I love the term squonked. I'll be using that in the future!

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sookie (over 4 years ago)

My pug sookie is 7 months old and has this same problem...I've tried the pumpkin thing, but hasn't helped.   I seem to be the only one she leaks onto.....usually when she's chillaxin' on my lap and snoring like a trooper!  I take her to the groomer once a month to have the glands emptied....but she still leaks on me....totally disgusting.....not really sure what course of action to take next......don't really want to subject her to surgery at such a young age.....

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nicky927 (over 4 years ago)

Sophie has this same problem with the leaking. It's usually when she's sitting on our lap, or laying with us on the couch!! We call it butt-stink. She seems to be pretty embarrassed when it happens and we ask her if she "butt-stinked". lol We've been contemplating the gland removal like Kat said, since it is a little annoying and we don't want it happening to guests in our house when they come over!

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Ashlie (over 4 years ago)

A great helper is Baby Onsies! I use them on Tank now since dog diapers aren't as cute. I love em and best trick I ever got on here. So when he has been expressed he still leaks unfortunatly just not always so I prefer the onsies now of you can't take toddler shorts and cut a whole for the tail.

Id rather it be on clothes than my bed or myself.

 

Good luck,

Ash and tank

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Madison Rose (over 4 years ago)

Ashlie, I hate to be dumb but I'm childless (except for my dear puggy Madison Rose) and don't know what a baby onsie is.  Are you talking about those one-piece outfits or about baby wipes or what?  Sorry for the dumb question! 

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RedRoss9 (over 4 years ago)

I'm happy to say that while Molly's butt DOES get smelly from time to time, her sphincter is good and tight and we don't have any leakage!  I take her to the vet or to the groomers about every 3 months and they express her anal glands and we're good to go.  I do have friends, however, who have a gorgeous black girl puggy and she has the anal leakage problem.  They just call it "butt juice" and it gets on everything she sits on EVERYTIME.  And onsies are the one piece outfit, Maddie.  I wouldn't know, but I ordered one for a friend.  It's a Captain Kirk uniform onesie from Star Trek!   

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burnman42 (over 4 years ago)

Our Tessa periodically does what we call "fishy toots". We don't usually find any secretions, but she does usually lick the spot she was sitting like a little maniac. She also sits on the floor and twists in circles chasing her tail. She has always tried chasing that thing since the day we got her, but lately I've started getting concerned that she's scratching her bum more than chasing.

I have read many resources referring to the impacted/leaky anal sacs, if your vet is unfamiliar with this, I would not hesitate to find a new vet. Don't be afraid to ask any new prospects how familiar they are with Pugs and or brachycephalic dogs. Brochi-whatever dogs are the kinds of dogs that have the short flatter shaped heads, boxers are a part of this group too. These dogs have special needs compared to other dogs due to their unique build. You need a vet that understands these special needs and are experienced with them.

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Madison Rose (over 4 years ago)

Thanks for the info.  I wasn't sure if you were talking about diapers or what.   Re-reading all of these postings, it's hilarious to see the different names for this!  Ha ha!

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Mom2Pugs (over 4 years ago)

That happens with Bella at least once per week. Several years ago she really had an issue with this and I brought it up with my vet. I was having her glands expressed every two weeks. The vet told me that she was not impacted but her gland was releasing too easily. He recomended I only have her expressed at the vet clinic and only every two to three months. This really helped, now this only hapens about oncce a month if that. When it does I make note so I will be sure to keep up with how often ahe is needing to be expressed.

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sookie (over 4 years ago)

Thanks for all the info....had sookie at the vet today for a upper respiratory inftection (poor little puggins, thought she was checking out on me lastnight).  Anyway, asked him to take a look at the anal sacks....interestingly he said that there wasn't alot in them, and he jokingly suggested maybe she was just trying to mark her territory (as she only tends to do this when snoozing on my lap--and not my husbands!  Lucky me).  I have spoken with a friend who is an animal behaviorist and she thinks it might be a behavioral thing...will chat more with her about it when I see her over the next week or two, and let you guys know the upshot....until then....I'll keep pureeing pumpkin in the vain hope that it will help.... 

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Ashlie (over 4 years ago)

Madison Rose-You aren't dumb, I don't have kids either although my partner does but they were grown already. LOL A onsie is the one piece out fit that buttons...or you can use a Romper, kinda the same thing that buttons down the chest, tummy, and Legs. Can be used backwards to show the cute prints on the back of your pug. Surprisingly Baby Clothes are cheaper as well!!!!!

 

Tank loves them. Have fun trying it out!

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RosienMikeysMom (over 4 years ago)

when mikey had infected anal glands, i thought it was that they had to be expressed but my vet said there wasn't alot in there. he did say he thought they were infected and treated him for it...he was on meds for about a week and has been fine ever since...maybe they are just infected.

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KatieBug27 (over 4 years ago)

you need to have your vet teach you how to express the glands yourself. its very easy and then you can do it daily so you wont have th problem.

vets like to make you think you cant do it yourself.... my vet wouldnt teach me so i got on youtube and learned how to do it myself and i always express my pugs myself!

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JanandSass (over 4 years ago)

Oh, that is hilarious!  Doesn't sound dangerous.  My pug doesn't do it, but I have other dogs who do, they express their own anal glands.  I have one who sort of does the "butt-scootin-boogie" on the rugs.  I think the leakage might be rather better than getting them blocked up.

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JanandSass (over 4 years ago)

Oh, just an afterthought - DO NOT EXPRESS YOUR PUPPEH'S ANAL GLANDS YOURSELF!!  IF THEY ARE IMPACTED THEY CAN BURST!

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oripeimark (about 3 years ago)

Wow, so others are having the same problem with this awful smelling leakage as my Oripei (pug/sharpei)? My vet says to bring my dog in every 2-3 weeks but what will that cost me? They also suggested Metamucil in his water and also the canned pumpkin mentioned above. He eats kind of sporadically though, so not sure the pumpkin will get into his system consistently.

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RosienMikeysMom (about 3 years ago)

orieimark....taking him to the vet every 2-3 weeks can get to be expensive. i would try the pumpkin. just put the pumpkin in his food at mealtimes. you say that he eats sporadically...do you free feed him?...meaning just leave the food bowl down all day? i would stop doing that if so as it is hard to control or see how much he is eating and also hard for potty training (although if it is working for you then so be it). you can always just take a rounded teaspoon of pumpkin and just give it to him as a treat everyday and let him lick it off the spoon...he will love it! just make sure it is pure pumpkin and not the pie filling. oh, and welcome to pugspot!

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three_cute (about 3 years ago)

Orieimark...we also have the same problem at our house with our little girl pug stella, never with our boy pug, sam.  We take her to the vet at least once a month to have them expressed, sometimes only one side is full, other times both.  We give her pumpkin and it does help but it still comes back.  This week she was sitting with me, and the next thing I smelled the "tailtail" smell and knew it was time for a vet visit.  Sam always tells me when its time for stella to go, cos he is following her around smelling her!  I have also researched it quite a bit and have decided that we would not do any type of surgury because of the side effects and danger to her, that we would just deal with it!  She is about 1 1/2 year old so maybe it will get better with age.  I have wondered also if it affects the squatty pugs more than the long-legged pugs????  Try the pumpkin, just make sure like rosymom said it is pure and not pumpkin pie stuff....deb and kids

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howardthepug (about 3 years ago)

FYI we started giving him some wet food (Natural Balance) along with kibble, and it has helped a lot. He still squonks now and then, but it happens much less often.

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howardthepug (about 3 years ago)

@two_cute: Probably because it's bulkier, so it helps the glands express naturally (instead of when he sits on his haunches). This is why people recommended the pumpkin....

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LaurieB (almost 3 years ago)

My poor baby is leaking weekly. He doesn't like it, it looks like its bothering him. We took him to the vet and they said to try pumpkin. He's been having it for weeks now and it isn't helping. It's so grose and we don't know what to do. Our vet mentioned surgery but she said its not pleasant for the dog. I don't know if I can put him through it when it's not a necessity. Any other ideas?

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LaurieB (almost 3 years ago)

My poor baby is leaking weekly. He doesn't like it, it looks like its bothering him. We took him to the vet and they said to try pumpkin. He's been having it for weeks now and it isn't helping. It's so grose and we don't know what to do. Our vet mentioned surgery but she said its not pleasant for the dog. I don't know if I can put him through it when it's not a necessity. Any other ideas?

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docand (almost 3 years ago)

If you are really having a problem, removel is best.  Laser surgery is very quick and it doesn't affect them that much other than the poop balls flying.  My Gretta had them removed and she would sit on the back of the couch and look out the picture window,  When she would see another dog or person walking down the street, she would bark causing her anal muscles to try to tighten.  They don't work very good after the surgery and she would shoot poop balls.  This lasted about a week.  I was told small dogs all have anal gland issues due to the way they squat outside when they poop.  Usually, in a larger dog, the poop moving through the intestine, causes a rubbing motion against the gland, causing them to usually express themselves when they squat.  Pugs are close to the ground when they squat and due to rhe routing of the intestine, sometimes the glands won't express themselves, thus they fill until they can't hold any more.  I would suggest to have them removed than the problem will be over.                                             Doc

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jetsetter6 (over 1 year ago)

Thanks to everyone for the advice on this topic. My 1 year old pug has left the rotten fish smell on my clothes twice in the past 3 weeks. It doesn't bother her she just turns around and licks the spot clean. Like others she only does this with me while we are chillin out on the couch. Also I accidentally dropped pumpkin on the floor recently whilst cooking dinner and she goobled it up so I will definitely try the pumpkin cure and check it out with the vet next time we check in.
During her puppy vaccinations I took my little puglet to a number of vets trying to find one I was happy with (She had some initial eye problems nothing serious thankfully) and 2 of the three asked me about her anal glands at the time I was wondering what they were talking about but now I know and thankfully the vet I am happy with not only specialises in opthomology for dogs but also asked about the anal glands so I am very confident in the service they provide. I would recommend that anyone with a Pug does vet research of this nature as pugs do have specialist requirements

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z28susan (over 1 year ago)

our pug Jake did the butt scooch outside and we got his glands expressed. First time ever and we have 3 pugs. Our vet recommended 1 tbsp of canned pumpkin with their food. They love the pumpkin and he hasn't had any problems since (thank goodness)!

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Sherri&Taz (over 1 year ago)

My Lola suffered from this we called it LBS.... leaky butt syndrome lol
so far my 5 month old does not have this problem yet, I will definatly try the pumpkin if it happens to him thanks for all the info